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Crunchy Bits: DDO Doublestrike Mechanics

Doublestrike / Doublestike

Doublestrike gives you a percentage change to take an additional attack with your main hand melee weapon. If you have a 6% double strike then you will get a bonus attack roughly 6 out of 100 attacks. It does not impact ranged attacks, spells, off hand attacks, or attacks using special animations (like cleave, trip etc…) It will affect special attacks using standard animations such as smites or ki strikes.

The number of sources of doublestrike is small compared to many other bonuses you can get, but there are still quite a number of them in the game. Stacking rules for doublestrike have never been entirely verified by devs. It seems that differently typed double strike bonuses will stack and same type bonuses will not. Untyped bonuses only stack if they are from a different source, aka a weapon will stack with a feat will stack with an enhancement, but two feat bonuses without types will not stack. If they do not stack then you should get the largest bonus.

You can see your current double strike bonus by hovering over the BAB icon (its red) in the character sheet Stats page.

Types of Doublestrike in DDO

So lets go over the different sources of double strike and group them by what should not stack and order them from largest to smallest

Mystery Shield Bonus – An untyped 4% for using a shield

Competence Bonuses – Fighter Weapon Alacrity capstone (fighter 20) 10%

Sacred Bonuses – Paladin Zeal spell (level 14 pally) 10% (no scrolls, self only, temporary)

Insight Bonus – Monk Windstance  2.5%/5%/7.5%/10% levels 1/6/12/18 respectively

Morale Bonus

  • Shield Mastery / Improved Shield mastery  3%/8% when using a shield
  • Timeblade (longsword) 3%  /  Epic Timeblade 6%
  • Hellstroke Great Axe 3% / Epic 6%
  • Cutthroat’s Smallblade (shortsword) 3% / 6% with tier 3 upgrades
  • Swashbuckler (shield)  3% / 6% with tier 3
  • Alchemical Weapon (any) Teir 2 Martial Air 6%
  • Antipode, Fist of the Horizon (handwraps) 6%
  • Bard Warchanter 2 Inspire Recklessness song 5% (level 12)
  • Way of the Sun soul set bonus effect +6% (temporary)
  • Epic Spare hand (belt) 3%

Untyped type Class Feats/Enhancements

  • Natural Fighting 6%  (druid level 9) can be taken up to 3 times for 18% total
  • Ranger Tempest 3  (level 18)  5% when wielding two weapons
  • Rogue Opportunist feat  3%  (level 10)

Alchemical Bonus

  • Fabricator’s Bracers with Combat Infusion 5% (temporary)

Untyped epic Destinies  (seem to stack with non epic sources)

  • Sentinel : Legendary Shield Mastery 6% when using a shield
  • Legendary Dreadnaught: Lightning Mace 15% bonus after Vorpal strike for 6 seconds
  • Grandmaster of Flowers: Hail of Blows 3%
  • Grandmaster of Flowers: running with the Wind 3% (in wind stance)

Profane Bonus

  • Shadowdancer: ShadowTraining 4 3% (certain light weapons only, temporary)

So who can have the most double strike?

Druids are king of full time double strike, but shield base builds, monks and two-weapon fighters are in the top ranking for doublestrke efficiency.
Shield based

  • +18 if you take three levels of natural fighting: 18%
  • If you use a shield you can get +8 from shield mastery (another two feats) and the +4 base shield bonus giving you 30%
  • Legendary shield mastery stacks for another 6% taking you to 36%
  • +3 Twist Hail of Blows for
  • 39%

Monk Multiclass

  • +18 for natural fighting
  • +5 for second tier wind stance
  • +3 from Hail of blows, and +3 from Running with the Wind
  • +6 from an item for
  • 35%

Each could squeeze in temporary bonuses from Shadowndancer and Combat infusion for a short term max of 47% though it would be quite unreliable to get it and only last seconds.

After the druids you would have shield using fighters and paladins, then non druid wind monks.

Anything you can do that bumps attack speed will also enhance double strike. Monk unarmed and Druid wolf forms both have faster than usual attack animations, Rogues and Fighters can get combat speed boost enhancements (also available in the dreadnaught line).

Ultimate double strike build?  Probably a half orc Druid with a splash of rogue and or fighter wielding a shield in wolf form.

Thanks to the DDOWiki and SteeleTrueHeart for their hard work in collecting and testing information about Doublestrike!


DDOcast 265

This episode Sig and Anne with Geoff (from go over DDO 2012 in review from Update 13, through Update 14 with MOTU and Update 15, and finally to the current update, Update 16.

We also have a nice Crunchy Bits on Doublestrike in addition our regular DDO game news and community news.

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DDOcast 258

We are going old school Crunchy this week with a detailed look at the new defensive rules introduced in update 15. Hopefully it will be easy to understand and give you some confidence in kitting out your character. Epic Education returns finishing up Tower of despair and starting in on Lord of Blades We also have game news, community news, Rheebus the Rogues top 10 Bugs, Ludwig’s Dragon Frags.

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DDOcast 244

DDOcast is a weekly DDO podcast created by fans for fans! We discuss nearly everything related to Dungeons and Dragons Online – Eberron Unlimited.

Episode 244 is ready! Here’s a LINK to the episode – just left-click to play, right-click and ‘save as’ to download as an mp3. You can find DDOcast on iTunes, the Zune Marketplace and

This week Sig and Anne are back from their holiday vacation! This episode we have loads of DDO news, mail and messages from listeners, and even a bit of speculation on what’s to come in DDO for 2011. New segments from Rhreebus Top 10 and Shamgar’s Epic Education. And a Crunchy Bits on Spell Resistance and Spell Penitration. We also couldn’t help our selves and talk about our Orginal D&D (B/X) and AD&D games we’ve played, and the latest info on D&D 5th edition!

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DDOcast Episode 244 (01-07-12)

0:00:33 Intro
0:01:40 DDO News
0:19:54 DDOcast News
0:21:23 Sponsor Break
0:24:04 Rheebus’ Top 10
0:29:44 Shamgar’s Epic Education
0:36:28 Whatcha Been Doing?
0:42:37 DDO Community News
0:50:48 Lighting Post: Mail & Messages!
0:59:39 Crunchy Bits Basics: Spell Resistance & Spell Penitration
1:12:55 General Gaming News: D&D
1:23:50 Post-edit Update: D&D 5th in Progress!
1:27:38 Games not as good as DDO: SWTOR
1:36:46 Closing


TOTAL TIME: 1:39:21


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DDOcast 225

Episode 225 is ready! Here’s a LINK to the episode – just left-click to play, right-click and ‘save as’ to download as an mp3. You can find DDOcast on iTunes, the Zune Marketplace and

This week Sig and Anne are joined by Turbine Reps Tolero, Cordovan and ProducerGlin in honor of DDO Podcasting Month! We get the skinny on U10.1 Crafting Issues, ProducerGlin goes over his EU PR trip, DDO news and events. In our Round Table, Sig talks about community relations with Tolero and Cordova. We also have DDO Poetry Corner and Epic Education goes over on how to do a Speed Shroud!

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DDOcast Episode 225 (07-16-11)

0:39 Inro
4:35 ProducerGlin Talks: Trip, Cannith Crafting Issues, and Fixes in the Pipe
13:56 DDO News: Cannith Crafting Issues, Bugs, etc
28:50 DDO Store News & Sales
34:27 ProducerGlin Parting Shots
36:57 Back to DDO Store Sales
37:28 DDOcast News: We’ve ordered Art!
39:35 Sponsor Break
41:24 Round Table Talk with Cordovan and Tolero on Community Relations (not a euphemism)
55:19 Epic Education with Shamgar
1:15:15 DDO Poetry Corner with Skaggy
1:20:32 DDO Community News
1:31:15 What’s New in DDO with Us
1:38:48 Crunchy Bits Mail Bag: Ninjas & Fighters
1:54:56 General Gaming News
2:00:33 DDOcast Messages & Mail
2:01:23 Last Call: Please test on Lamannia! Pretty Please?!
2:01:56 Closing


TOTAL TIME: 2:03:30


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